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that this vaes globalization is going to change the culture. >> it's already changing the culture. >> how so? >> i think that the gay marriage is another issue. yoit anyways yeah through science and technology the so-called abortion pill r uchu t was pioneered in france. there was a great deal of hostility and opposition to it. now it's come over and now it's easily available from doctor or from a clinic. there's no question we're all sort of this mainstream of western values. >> you think that ts force emanating from europe particularly amsterdam seems to have codified it more than anyone else is irresistible. i think it's a condition of modern life and in that sense is streak liamly powerful force. there are and there can be count counterveiling issues in the society. i think it's complex. how are you impressed by this point of viview, steven? >> well, i thi you have to take religion seriously in the united states and i think that's the huge difference in united states and the netherlands. you've got the one most religious and secular countries in europe in the e netherlands. if you look a
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